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The Truth About the China Study
http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/China-Study.html
Here's the last two paragraphs of an article by Chris Masterjohn:
The China Study contains many excellent points in its criticism of the
health care system, the overemphasis on reductionism in nutritional
research, the influence of industry on research, and the necessity of
obtaining nutrients from foods. But its bias against animal products
and in favor of veganism permeates every chapter and every page.
Less than a page of comments are spent in total discussing the harms of
refined carbohydrate products. Campbell exercises caution when
generalizing from casein to plant proteins, but freely generalizes from
casein to animal protein. He entirely ignores the role of wheat gluten,
a plant product, in autoimmune diseases, so he can emphasize the role
of milk protein, an animal product. The book, while not entirely
without value, is not about the China Study, nor is it a comprehensive
look at the current state of health research. It would
be more aptly titled, A Comprehensive Case for the Vegan Diet, and the
reader should be cautioned that the evidence is selected, presented,
and interpreted with the goal of making that case in mind. No virus
found in this incoming message.
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Re: Flor-Essence Essiac Tea
My girl friend's aunt has lung cancer. She told me her aunt is in complete remission by taking Flor-Essence.. There are soo many in the internet, what will be best source to buy from. Helen
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Are we one size fits all?
Greetings,
If this list is serious about helping people, could we please drop the one size fits all nonsense? Yes, for some people a half gallon of milk a day may be too much, but
for a young adult or teen that needs 10,000 to 12,000 calories to maintain a minimum weight, it is great. So blanket statements condemning the drinking of this much milk, without more information, are just plain rude.
Some people need more of certain vitamins than others do. Many people would die taking the amount of vitamin A I need to prevent migraine headaches, but I am super healthy using that much. And yes, this program was designed under the supervision of a doctor.
Everyone has a different metabolism rate, ancestry, allergies, and medical history. There is no one solution for any human body that will fit everyone. The idea of this list as I understand is to share what we find works for us, not to dump on what someone else finds that works for them.
Bright Blessings,
Kim
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Re: Are we one size fits all?
Dairy products are a health hazard. They contain no fiber or complex carbohydrates and are laden with saturated fat and cholesterol. They are contaminated with cow's blood and pus and are frequently contaminated with pesticides, hormones, and antibiotics. Dairy products are linked to allergies, constipation, obesity, heart disease, cancer, and other diseases.
The late Dr. Benjamin Spock, America's leading authority on child care, spoke out against feeding cow's milk to children, saying it can cause anemia, allergies, and insulin-dependent diabetes and in the long term, will set kids up for obesity and heart disease, America's number one cause of death.
And dairy products may actually cause osteoporosis, not prevent it, since their high-protein content leaches calcium from the body. Population studies, backed up by a groundbreaking Harvard study of more than 75,000 nurses, suggest that drinking milk can actually cause osteoporosis
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Re: Are we one size fits all? No, but...
Hi, Kim.
Regrettably, perhaps, I think we do need to talk in generalities at times. Regardless of what milk may do for some people, it is generally not good for the majority of people to drink. In "The China Study," Campbell even shows a significant link between cows's milk and childhood diabetes.
Many of your comments look as if you have found what works for you, and that you are in a class different than a great many people. It is wonderful that you have found out what works for you. But you appear to be an anomaly.
If we were to try to chop this board up into what specifically works for each single person, we would come up with little to nothing. We'd put ourselves in the same situation mainstream MD's want us: That is, in a situation where it appears that nothing is generally true, so we
might as well give up trying to do anything to improve our health.
From what I have read and studied over the 18 years since I was diagnosed with cancer, I have found these things to be generally true:
1) that for most people with cancer, not eating animal protein is beneficial
2) that for most people, drinking pasteurized, homogenized, hormonated, antibiotic-added milk is not good
3) that prolonged, negative stress is very bad for everyone
4) that drinking PLENTY of pure water is good for everyone
5) that avoiding refined, processed foods is good for everyone
6) that getting around 8 hours of sleep and going to be well before midnight is best for most people
7) that getting daily, moderate exercise is good for everyone capable of doing exercise
8) that getting plenty of fresh air and intelligent sunshine is good for just about everyone
9) that the Budwig and Gerson protocols work for many people, and so are likely good for most people diagnosed with cancer to try
10) that a great many people are selenium and magnesium deficient, so that it is a good idea for most people to supplement their diets with these things
I think we are here to compare notes and to try to find what things have worked for the most people so that we can narrow down our search for what works.
I do not think cow's milk is a good thing for a teen or young adult to drink, I KNOW it is mucus-forming, and I DEFINITELY must question a 10,000 or 12,000 calorie diet. The following site says an average teenage girl needs 2,000 calories daily, while an average teenage boy needs 2500 to 3,000:
http://www.teengrowth.com/index.cfm?action=info_advice&ID_Advice=2434
Best wishes,
Elliot
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Re: Are we one size fits all?
I believe, however, that benefits have been established for consuming cultured and organic dairy products.
Lainey
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?
I don't know about H2O2 for internal use, and I have never done so. However, in the ears, nose, and throat for colds/flu, in the ears for earwax, and as a mouth rinse for gum care and tooth whiteneing, it's been great. I just have to START for the bottle of hydrogen peroxide and the cold goes away! :)
In regard to internal use, one would have to distinguish between routine use and use under special conditions. Even if the former WEREN'T such a good idea, the latter might be, depending.
RB
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?
When you purchase the food grade Hydrogen Peroxide you can break it down to a 12% which is easier to use. You do have to handle it carefully too. The way to do this is take 1 cup peroxide and 2 cups distill water then pour into a bottle and label it as such This can not be taken as 1/4 teaspoon in 16 ounces water. I also add this to my 5 gallon bottled water to prevent mold or a musty smell in the water. That 1/2 teaspoon is enough to purify that amount of water without tasting it. You are getting the peroxide every day and yet it is very safe to use. It is like vinegar, it is too strong as is, but mixed in water is good for you.
We have used the H2O2 this way for many years. I have a fountain and it keeps it clean smelling and tasting.
Kathryn
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?
I did do research. Didn't you read about the other person who who
used HP and their symptoms got worse. It was posted yesterday. I gave
it to my son and he got weird reactions. Read the post below this.
I also do not usually drink Hydrochloric Acid either. :>))
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Re\Raw milk, etc.
I would counsel anyone who makes HEAVY use f dairy to look at the ayurvedic perspective, which, in a nutshell, is that dairy is good, but in moderation, and depending on one's body type and imbalances. It also recommends BOILING milk and the use of certain spices in conjunction with it for maximum digestibilty and value. You can probably find some
material on it at mapi.com.
RB
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Re\Raw milk
Someone mentioned they drink a half gallon of milk a day. Raw milk is much better than store bought milk. A half gallon may be okay for a person who can digest that much and is healthy. For someone who has cancer, that is too much. Too much protein can cause cancer. What do
they give growing children? Protein and milk. They cause things to grow including cancer. Moderation is the key. Cancer patients need protein so they will not be depleted but a half gallon is way too much for cancer patients.
GB
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Re: Re\Raw milk
Dear Guru,
That is far too much milk for anyone. In fact, cow's or goat's milk is not necessary for anyone who has access to fresh vegetables and fruits, nuts, seeds and good oils. Animal protein is NOT necessary to eat in order to "get your protein." That is a myth. One might want to take
some B12 if one is eating no animal protein, but otherwise, one is fine eating vegan.
Best wishes,
Elliot
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Raw milk/Colostrum
I am now so confused. We used to take raw goats milk. I have read in another yahoo group that raw milk causes mucous and cancer feeds on mucous. However, i have read that raw goat's milk does not cause mucous. Any input from anyone out there please?
Thanks.
Melly
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Raw milk/Colostrum
Clean, Raw goat's milk is by far the "best" milk one can drink. I drank it for a while when I was getting rid of a heartburn problem. But I do not drink it now because it is unnecessary and because I believe, from my reading and research, that eating animal protein, including milk, is linked to cancer and degenerative dis-ease. Raw goat milk tends to be expensive, too, because of the restrictions from the "health police." So why have it in your diet if it is not needed, and if it is linked to degenerative dis-ease?
Best wishes,
Elliot
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Re: Raw milk/Colostrum
Milk or dairy of anykind raw or pasterized was intended for baby cows, not human. www.notmilk.com or www.milksucks.com Another good book to read on milk dairy protein would be the china study by campbell. Milk causes a host of problems, get your vitimin d from the sun, Just my two cents worth
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Re: Raw milk/Colostrum
Melly,
Goat's milk is closer to human milk. If someone is going to drink milk, goat's milk is the better alternative, so they say.
ar
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Re: Re\Raw milk, etc.
Robert,
After trying it on and off for 2 years, I am thoroughly convinced that milk is mucus-forming for me, and I have read over and over again in many different places that it is mucus-forming for a great many people. Then, too, in the experiments with aflatoxin, Campbell used MILK
protein: casein, which is the main ingredient in many glue products.
Best wishes,
Elliot
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More facts about milk for children
Cow's milk is the number one source of allergies in children, and research links consumption of dairy products, including cow's milk, to colic (stomach cramps), autism, chronic ear infections, insulin- dependent diabetes mellitus (type 1 or "juvenile-onset" diabetes), acne, obesity, flatulence, constipation, mucus, and a variety of other ailments.
In his world-famous book Baby and Child Care, Dr. Benjamin Spock wrote, "I no longer recommend dairy products. . The essential fats that are needed for brain development are found in vegetable oils. Milk is very low in these essential fats and high in the saturated
fats that encourage artery blockage and weight problems as children grow."
According to Michael Klaper, M.D., nutritional expert and author of Pregnancy, Children, and the Vegan Diet: "Humans are the only creatures that drink milk from the mother of another species. It's as unnatural for a child to drink the milk of a cow as it is for a dog to nurse from a giraffe! Human children have no nutritional requirements for cow's milk and grow up healthy and strong without it. Cow's milk and the products made from it are laced with foreign,
frequently allergy-inciting bovine protein and often contain hydrocarbon pesticides and other chemical contaminants, as well as health-endangering saturated fat. Clinical experience suggests that cow's milk is linked to numerous common health problems (runny noses,
allergies, ear infections, recurrent bronchitis, asthma, etc.) that often keep people returning to their doctors' offices instead of to their jobs or classrooms. Parents should feel good about giving their children the many nutritious, tasty alternatives to dairy products instead."
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Re: More facts about milk for children
For those who are allergic to cow's milk might I suggest Transfer Factor?
Ray
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On milk
By far, the best milk for people with cancer is raw human milk. I drank milk from a donor for 3-4 months, off and on, 2-4 oz., and it raised my immunoglobulins. Here is info about fighting cancer with human milk:
http://www.sciencenews.org/articles/20061209/bob8.asp
And here's a short video on a man who is now cancer-free and drinks breast milk:
http://cbs5.com/video/?id=23292@kpix.dayport.com&cid=119
Ellen
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Re: Re\Raw milk
Hi Elliot,
I respect the fact that you do well on a vegan diet, but there are a whole lot of people where that is not true. Many people have tried to stick with such a diet up to the point of death and perhaps beyond. http://www.beyondvege.com. There are different metabolic types. A vegan diet can be very healing in the short term, especially when someone has been eating too much animal protein. What I recommend is listening to your body. Maybe someone can get by with eating animal protein once a week or once a month, others feel better when they
have it every day.
Look up metabolic types.
Karen
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Re: Raw milk/Colostrum
Thanks to everyone who responded on raw goat's milk. I will only take if really really needed.
Natural standard is selling a book covering different approaches to healing including herbals.
They have a downloadable excerpts of their book and it showed a research doe in India on ascorbic acid vs. cooking herbs. Caraway, dill, fenugreek, and some others beat ascorbic acid as antioxidant. Caraway was number one, followed by dill. Water extract was used mixed with other formulas.
Melly
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Raw milk/Colostrum
Melly I think this depends on the person. Some people can handle milk just fine. Others do not do so well. Milk can cause mucous. The amount depends on the person's metabolism and other factors. I am not a big fan of soy though. Most soy products including soy milk are not
processed like they were in ancient times. The best way to take soy is to ferment it like tempeh or natto. One can also put lemon juice or vinegar on it to marinade it.
As far as milk goes, a half gallon is way to much for anyone though. There are many drinks that are medicinal and taste great made with milk like Yogi Tea and Golden Milk. This is a warm milk made of milk, turmeric, nutmeg, almond oil and honey.
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Raw milk/Colostrum
We do need a certain amount of mucous. However, most people have an overabundance of mucous.Athletes in particular need it for heavy breathing.
GB
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Re: Paw Paw report
Cindy,
He took 500 mg Vitamin C and 400 MG natural vitamin E.
Thanks.
Melly
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Re: Paw Paw report 0-PSA?
Thanks Joe. So should he be satisfied with the PSA at 3 now? If he visits a urologist and will not have a biopsy done, then what can he offer him aside from scaring him out of his wits as his internist did? Maybe he should find a urologist who does colored ultrasound/sonogram.
Melly
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