Validation of "Rife" in Physics Today - Electric Fields as a cancer


The August 2007 issue of the Physics Today magazine - the journal of the American Physical Society (which virtually all plasma physicists belong to) has an article: (Volume 60 issue 8)

"Electric fields have potential as a cancer treatment"

The paper, from research in Israel, describes using a 1 to 2 volts per centimeter field of directionally alternating energy at 200khz to disrupt the cell division of brain cancer cells. No effects were found in normal cells, but the electrical field hinders the formation of the mitotic spindle, resulting in cancer cell disintegration rather than division.

Cleveland Clinic finds that fields as low as 50 hz have the same effect. This could be the basis of what "Rife Energy" does.

See:
http://ptonline.aip.org/journals/doc/PHTOAD-ft/vol_60/iss_8/19_1.shtml

Dave Felt
http://www.dfe.net


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Re: Validation of "Rife" in Physics Today - Electric Fields as a can

Interesting, Dave.

The "directionally alternating energy" description makes me think of the GEIPE treatment I tried doing on the tumors in my neck a year or so ago. It involved using a battery charger and needles, and was too difficult to manage on my own for any significant length of time, but
I did feel that while I was doing it, the tumors shrank slightly and certainly did not grow. Looks promising. Thanks for posting this.

Elliot


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Re: MMS Mineral Supplement

Hi

I have used MMS. I built up slowly from 2 drops per day to 30 - and have tapered off to about 10 drops per day in a squeeze of lemon juice.

The effects - no ill health. No diarrhoea but lots of stinky farts! Sleep very deeply and it seems to be beneficial to my gums but hasn't cured anything.

Jonathan


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Re: Cancer Research

Dr. Nina Silver's Rife Handbook is one of the better alternative texts if one is looking at frequency energy for health benefits. The newer edition, due out next summer/fall (we hope) is considerably expanded. The web site below also has lots and lots of information and links to frequency-related health sites.

Additionally, a consumer-level paper published in the August 2007 Physics Today Journal (Journal of the American Physical Society) by some researchers in Israel concerns using a low-level 100 khz alternating electrical field to successfully disrupt the cell division of brain
cancer, with virtually no negative effects on other cells. This may be the key to the entire "frequency energy" alternative methodology. In the initial trials, several patients had complete remissions.

Dave Felt
http://www.dfe.net

deberhardt85 wrote: Hello, I am a nursing student located in Northeast Ohio. I'm doing a research project on cancer and cancer related disorders, medicinal treatment, and alternative treatments. Included in my research project is contacting an email listing for assistance. Is there a helpful resource such as a book, web site, or recently published papers regarding this topic? Who has published the best book(s) on this topic? Thank you for your time I look forward to your results.


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Re: Cancer Research

There is a huge wealth of information on this board about different alternatives and I think some websites are mentioned fairly often. There is no one book that will give you the answers. That said, some sources like Ralph Moss, or cancertutor.com are well known and comprehensive in scope. Some other well known and discussed alternatives are Budwig, Gerson, enzyme therapy just to name a few. What is the focus of your research?

deberhardt85 wrote: Hello, I am a nursing student located in Northeast Ohio. I'm doing a research project on cancer and cancer related disorders, medicinal treatment, and alternative treatments. Included in my research project is contacting an email listing for assistance. Is there a helpful resource such as a book, web site, or recently published papers regarding this topic? Who has published the best book(s) on this topic? Thank you for your time I look forward to your results.


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Re: Cancer Research

Does anyone have information for a cure for Polycythemia Vera ?
your help is appreciated.

smrunyon


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Re: Cancer Research

Hi,
Of course there are a great many. A very impressive starting point in my opinion would be this one:

The Independent Cancer Research Foundation, Inc. "Researching alternative cancer treatments for advanced cancer patients" www. new-cancer-treatments.org

Wanda


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Polycythemia / was: Cancer Research

Do you have polycythemia "vera" or "secondary"?

There really is nothing that works well. I have been fighting poly secondary for a while now and I can keep it down to a couple of blood draws every 5 or 6 months, but that is as good as I have been able to do. If you find anything that works, PLEASE drop a line.

There are some Chinese herbals that show promise and I am currently studying them, but as of yet, they have not stopped it either. I cannot honestly tell if they have really helped.

Regards,

Bruce Guilmette, Ph.D.
http://survivecancerfoundation.org
author: There's More To Life Than Just Living


Does anyone have information for a cure for Polycythemia Vera ?
your help is appreciated.

[Moderator's note: Definition-Polycythemia vera is an abnormal increase in blood cells (primarily red blood cells) due to excess production of the cells by the bone marrow. It is an acquired disorder of the bone marrow that causes the overproduction of white blood cells, red blood cells, and platelets. It is a rare disease that occurs more frequently in men than women, and rarely in patients under age 40. The exact cause is unknown.]


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cannabis for breast cancer

Cannabis compound 'halts cancer'

A compound found in cannabis may stop breast cancer spreading throughout the body, US scientists believe. The California Pacific Medical Center Research Institute team are
hopeful that cannabidiol or CBD could be a non-toxic alternative to chemotherapy.

Unlike cannabis, CBD does not have any psychoactive properties so its use would not violate laws, Molecular Cancer Therapeutics reports. The authors stressed that they were not suggesting patients smoke marijuana.

They added that it would be highly unlikely that effective concentrations of CBD could be reached by smoking cannabis.

CBD works by blocking the activity of a gene called Id-1 which is believed to be responsible for the aggressive spread of cancer cells away from the original tumour site - a process called metastasis.

Past work has shown CBD can block aggressive human brain cancers.

The latest work found CBD appeared to have a similar effect on breast cancer cells in the lab.

Lead researcher Dr Sean McAllister said: "Right now we have a limited range of options in treating aggressive forms of cancer.

"Those treatments, such as chemotherapy, can be effective but they can also be extremely toxic and difficult for patients.

"This compound offers the hope of a non-toxic therapy that could achieve the same results without any of the painful side effects."

Dr Joanna Owens of Cancer Research UK said: "This research is at a very early stage.

"The findings will need to be followed up with clinical trials in humans to see if the CBD is safe, and whether the beneficial effects can be replicated. "Several cancer drugs based on plant chemicals are already used widely, such as vincristine - which is derived from a type of flower called Madagascar Periwinkle and is used to treat breast and lung cancer. It will be interesting to see whether CBD will join them."

Maria Leadbeater of Breast Cancer Care said: "Many people experience side-effects while having chemotherapy, such as nausea and an increased risk of infection, which can take both a physical and emotional toll.

"Any drug that has fewer side-effects will, of course, be of great interest."

But she added: "It is clear that much more research needs to be carried out."

Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/1/hi/health/7098340.stm


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Re: cannabis for breast cancer

This is an interesting concept. Will a skilled scientist be able to extract this element in Cannabis easily enough to do some of their own trials?

As for the list? I cannot get past Budwig or LDN and a host of 'hot-shot' posters that seem to have taken over.

I hope the Center is getting action where needed.

My best to all,

Joe C.


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Re: cannabis for breast cancer

It has been Tested in vivo on GBM tumors with great success! Supposedly works better in cancers that warrant Avastin than Avastin itself.....Cannibas is largely anti-angiogenic


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Re: cannabis for breast cancer

Joe,

It would be nice if it were possible, but "a skilled scientist" cannot afford to do his or her "own trials." Not any trials that anyone who matters would pay attention to. Jerry McLaughlin, inventor of Paw Paw extract, was told that Paw Paw would not be taken seriously unless he
ran a double blind study with 3,000 participants. But he will never be able to pay for or to organize such a study. Only Big Pharma can manage that, of course.

I think it is a good thing, by the way, to see all these new people posting messages to the board, and I don't see that everything is about LDN or Budwig. ??? [as Joe suggested]

Best wishes,

Elliot


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Paw Paw report

For anyone using Paw Paw or wanting to try it, here is the response I got from the PawPaw research people. "No there is not an issue; please see the information on the site regarding this."

in response to my question:

"I am interested in trying paw paw for cancer. I am also taking iv vitamin c twice per week and 10 grams orally each day. Would there be a compatibility problem taking both together? With other supplements like alpha lipoic acid?"

Looks like they confirm that antioxidants arent a problem and in fact show increased effect together with PawPaw.

dwntwngrl2 wrote:After I posted, I listened to Dr McLaughlin talk about using paw paw with antioxidants and he said they are synergistic & increase effectiveness. http://www.pawpawresearch.com/visual.htm#qa


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?

Hi Brandon,
I personally know someone who cured his pancreatic cancer 7 years ago using only 3 things:

1) food grade hydrogen peroxide (I think about 20 drops 3x a day, working slowly up to that amount. He put it in tomato juice.)

2) Cantron, available online (google it)

3) Liquid trace minerals

He is (and was) diabetic, and made no adjustments to his diet whatsoever. It took about 4 months for the cancer to go away.

I personally tried the same protocol, but was sensitive to the hydrogen peroxide and had to quit. I also quit the Cantron because I learned it conflicted with the Budwig Protocol, which I am also doing.

Good luck,
Wanda


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?



personally tried the same protocol, but was sensitive to the
hydrogen peroxide

What reaction did you have? If I used it to rinse my mouth I get a mouth full of blisters.


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?

If you arre sensitive to Hyderogen Peroxide you should start with smaller dose may be one or two drops and slowly you will start accepting.

I have a friend who was having simmilar problem he was not able to accpet HP but now he is taking regularly. I personally do not have problem but I also take small qty as prevention.

Take care

Kumar


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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide?

I have used H202 IVs - and they were helpful at killing microbes - immediate diffrence noticed. But it's rough in the veins so I switched to IV C and that turns into H202 in teh body but has othe rbenefist and isnt so tough on the vascular.

Kumar Africa wrote: If you arre sensitive to Hyderogen Peroxide you should start with smaller dose may be one or two drops and slowly you will start accepting. I have a friend who was having simmilar problem he was not able to accept HP but now he is taking regularly. I personally do not have problem but I also take small qty as prevention.


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Blueberries

Wonder how many of you are into blueberries along with your Budwig FO/CC mixture? Below are a few encouraging facts as an excerpt from a site on the role blueberries plays in our health betterment:

"Blueberries can help relieve both diarrhea and constipation. In addition to soluble and insoluble fiber, blueberries also contain tannins, which act as astringents in the digestive system to reduce inflammation. Blueberries also promote urinary tract health.

Blueberries contain the same compounds found in cranberries that help prevent or eliminate urinary tract infections. In order for bacteria to infect, they must first adhere to the mucosal lining of the urethra and bladder. Components found in cranberry and blueberry juice reduce
the ability of E. coli, the bacteria that is the most common cause of urinary tract infections, to adhere."

Enjoy and Shalom,
Bill in Cottonwood


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Re: virus/fungus cures?

Try to use hyderogen peroxide externally and orally. For taking orally you have to start with 3 drops of 30% solution. I am sure you will get positive results.

Take care

Kumar

From: Guru K
Margie
Have you tried pao d arco or oregano leaf?
GB

margie.jeanne wrote: Does anyone know of a natural supplement that would rid me of virus and fungus that still lurks in my body? I have toenail fungus on two toes, and a papilloma virus/wart for the past 47 years on the bottom of my foot, and some recurrent seed warts. I think that getting rid of these might increase my chances of keeping my cancers at bay (I have had adrenal cortical carcinoma and thyroid cancer in the past two years, and the adrenal cancer was in my liver recently, but now appears to be regressing). Any ideas, please? Margie


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Re: cannabis for breast cancer--Sorry

Was supposed to be a private post. Must have been a senior moment.

Joe C.


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Re: Freeze Dried Noni Capsules

breathedeepnow wrote: For my part, and in my experience, Noni is a JUICE, whether it is liquid or dried, and NO juice by itself is a "cure" for cancer. Don't be taken in by any hype about noni, goji, pomegranate or other juice sellers. Those juices may be good when taken along with many other things, but they are NOT ANY kind of "cures" for cancer. Best wishes, Elliot

Yes indeed it would be amazing. What if you found a juice that the local folklore indicated it had been used for thousands of years for medicinal purposes. Remember before we had the Doctors of today we used botanicals and herbs to cure ailments. Seems odd that we would
doubt that botanicals could still help. But when sailors of yesteryear had scurvy and were told to eat a lime many of them scoffed at the idea. Nothing natural could cure this they said. People don't believe a naturally made substance can help or have any effect n them. The
same people walk into Starbucks where you can get a triple espresso, made from a bean, I wonder if that natural item has any effect.

Yet people and science have already stated that many natural treatments help, with many things, which is why we have the controversy over things like medical marijuana. What about pain? My pain was relieved. By a juice. I no longer am addicted to ibuprofen, pain killers and
muscle relaxants. I have seen the science as well. I can look it up online. I can see where this fruit juice was tested in a glass dish, where it showed to be more effective in killing more cancer cells than 5 commonly used chemo therapy drugs. But many will still say it's not
possible, because they will associate it with orange juice.

But wait, didn't w determine many years ago that there were vitally healthy things in orange juice, things that help humans thrive? Why, when some of these Vital - Amines were discovered many scoffed. The term was later shorted to vitamins. Or is it just our own ignorance and inability to consider that maybe something can help? Look today. Look
at the Oakland Press, where there is an article today about how this simple juice helped a MRSA patient that was told by Doctors that he had to take pills to keep it away...

"At one point, the doctor pulled me aside and said I need to take these high-powered pills and if I didn't the MRSA was going to come back," Knaus said.

Knaus said he is anti-drug and didn't want to take the drug prescribed to him by his doctors. He turned to the mangosteen juice instead. "I bought one bottle for about $40," Knaus said. "I took 9 ounces a day and (the infection) started to shrink. I ran out and got two more
bottles, and after seven days it was gone. Everybody is telling me this MRSA is resistant and this juice makes it go away."

There's a lot going on. Make sure you look at it with your eyes open.


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Re: Freeze Dried Noni Capsules


So Elliot, Have you taken PAwPaw with positive results? Do/did you have cancer,and if so what kind? I just ordered some because of everything I have been reading. I have metastatic Inflammatory breast cancer to bones and liver.
Theresa S.


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PRAYER REQUEST

Hello Everyone, My name is Kristie and I am from Alabama. I signed up for this group not too long back but I haven't posted anything until now. I do read the posts every day and say a prayer for you all. I wanted to write and ask you all to pray for my Dad, Danny Turner. He
is 59 years old and on October 22nd, 2007, he was diagnosed with a malignant lung tumor on the upper lobe of his left lung with some spreading to a lymph node on his neck.

After his diagnosis, I began researching online for things that would help him. He started the Flax Oil and Cottage Cheese as well as juicing carrots, etc. He has had alot of people praying for him also. Dad went to the cancer doctor Thursday, November 8th to find out what they were going to do for him.

The doctor checked the spot on his neck again and was amazed at how it has gone down. The amazing thing is that Dad has NOT began any treatments other than prayer and the things I mentioned above. God is good and gets the praise, for he is the Great Physician. For some reason, Dad has been sick since this past Wednesday. Before then, you would have never known anything was wrong with him. He said it feels like a bad cold/flu to him. He has been mostly resting because it has got him fatigued and hasn't had much of an appetite but has ate a little bit.

He has been having pain all over, maybe body aches if it is the flu. He went to his regular doctor Friday but she said it might be that he overdone himself the week before
rebuilding the motor of his truck. But since that visit, he has had a fever so I doubt it is that. His doctor was just going by what he told her his symptoms was and at that time he didn't have a fever. I asked him if he wanted some of us to take him back to the doctor so
she could do tests to see what it was but he said he didn't feel like it today. I know he needs some nutrients, so I bought him some Glucerna. I knew he didn't need Ensure because of all the sugar, so I

chose Glucerna because it is for diabetics. As far as his cancer goes, I wish he would go to The Cancer Treatment Center Of America. He is kindly hard-headed so I'm not sure if he will. Like I said he hasn't started any treatments yet, but something has got him down sick. The cancer doctor has not even told us what type or stage his cancer is. All we know is that it is a malignant turmor with some spreading. Today, when I saw him, he said that the spot on his neck was almost gone and when the church prayed for him the last time, he could feel God's Annointing. Please Pray for him. GOD is still in control and nothing is too big for him to handle. Sickness cannot live in the presence of God. Thank You all and you all are in my
prayers. Kristie